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I was today years old when I was told that the way I hold pencil is good for writing letters but bad for drawing smoothly flowing precise lines. I changed my grip from tripod to violin bow OR pen and voila...

Thanks helpyoudraw tumblr for a helpful illustration

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@nina_kali_nina what do you think about all of this ? Drawing is so personal. Should a grip be bad or good ? I tend to listen to this type of advice in sports, or for things I feel trouble or difficulty. For drawing I feel I should just let it happen. But I am not sure about it
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@ouroukaye so, there's no bad or good grip per se, but there's a good grip and a bad grip for different situations! Using the grip I knew I can draw angular lines of even thickness, and that's rad. But I couldn't draw pretty circles and ovals, and I couldn't draw pencil lines that change thickness - now I can if I want to! I'm sure I'll use both. Each skill like that is a weapon!

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@nina_kali_nina so you can alter thickness in the same trait because of the grip. interesting i did not thought about that
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@ouroukaye yep, I generally feel like I have more axis of freedom at the expense of having controls altered and perhaps a bit less precise at super tiny details

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@nina_kali_nina I am trying to grip farther from the pencil head, I actually make better lines (less hesitant lines). I get the line I want more easily (less bad lines to erase).
yet for the position of the hand, I am closer to the bad one than the others, but I don't feel confident to change it yet. Also I work on a high flat table on a small but thick drawing book (14 x 14 x 2 cm), which does not seems to help with other hand positions, some seems more suited for "vertical" work stations.
thanks for the advices and feedback

@ouroukaye no problem :D I am an absolute beginner, so I just share what I just read. Glad you find it helpful, that's all