@chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caDon’t CW this. I beg you.
My wife is on Instagram. She just did this.
She heard there was weird stuff happening. She searched “#Republican” and “#Democrat”.
She had to do it herself to see if it was true.
It is.
She is beside herself.
This is the 2025 version of marching into CNN and telling them to broadcast only his stuff.
This is him taking over the NYT.
This is new age Oligarchy. This is Authoritarianism. This is Fascism2025.
Original Edit 9PM PST Jan 21: we’re in Canada, so this is worldwide? Or NA?
Edit 6:27AM Jan 21: BBC article confirmation of problem https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g32yxpdz0o
@chris absolutely insane - watching fascism enact in real time - fascinating and terrifying
@chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca@MatWright I didn’t think I could be surprised or shocked today. This shocked me.
@chris Musk doing the Hitler salute today floored me - it was at the Presidential podium, and media don't seem to get how impactful that is, that he either felt he could get away with it (because they are all fucking Nazis), or it was approved in advance
Wondering how the Zionists are feeling now, as they see their protectors emerge as fully fledged Nazis?
Maybe it will all be OK for them as Zionism is not compatible with Judaism in reality.
@JimmyB @MatWright @chris Israeli here. Most people don't know of this yet. Wait four hours till the 17 o'clock news. It's likely social media won't propagate posts about this due to obvious reasons.
There'll be two answers. One, "Elon isn't Trump". Two, rage.
And "Zionism is incompatible with Judaism"? Dude, please read some literature. Kahanism, "messiah mode" (book and video), Israeli definitions of Zionism (hint: there are at least 20, Zionism is just a general "good word": everyone tries to claim they are the patriots, not those other, evil monsters)
"Dude, please read some literature"
Thanks 'dude'. I've read quite a bit.
But yes - there are forms of Zionism - not all of which involve massacring Palestinians. However, as understood and propagated in our media and by the Israeli Gov and her supporters, there is one form. And that currently-dominant form does involve massacring Palestinians. A lot of Israeli writing since the Nakba - including liberal authors - have maintained that Zionist dehumanisation.
Great then.
The ideology of the current Israeli government is Kahanism. Speaking of "Zionism" is incredibly unspecific, and encompasses almost the entirety of Israel's political compass: it's used the same way as patriotism. And therefore, you can't really say it's "incompatible with Judaism". It's like I'd go around saying how American patriotism ruins the world. Let's not.
And: Kahanism, which I assume is what you meant, is indeed contradictory to everything Judaism is about. But there are lots of ideologies that call themselves Zionism as well, and aren't.
The only interests calling Kahanism Zionism serves is Kahanists': that way, they can oppress their opposition by calling them "anti Zionist"—think "anti patriotic", the implication is clear: "traitor".
Well - I'm not Jewish, but Jewish mates talk about Zionism in this way.
And I was inspired to learn more listening, some years ago, to a member of the Biritish Board of Jewish Deputies on the BBC Today programme who said that you cannot be a Jew and not be a Zionist. And he explained what it meant. It meant what I mean when I use the word Zionist.
So - take youer point. But no one knows what Kahanism is. But we all know what 'Zionism' is - as used.
And I was inspired to learn more listening, some years ago, to a member of the Biritish Board of Jewish Deputies on the BBC Today programme who said that you cannot be a Jew and not be a Zionist. And he explained what it meant. It meant what I mean when I use the word Zionist.
They were either Kahanist or Bibistic themselves. Plus, I wouldn't call the BBC a reliable source on Israel Palestine: they can't seem to decide whose side's war crimes they want to lie about.
But no one knows what Kahanism is
People Google it, or ask, or just assume your intention from context (as it's incredibly clear; you don't necessarily need to know the history of the term, though should). That's the word I use, always. And if they don't know: introduce it. It's important to know what terms the other side wants you to use (Zionism) to refer to them, and why.
@JimmyB @MatWright @chris The fediverse doesn't only consist of the English-speaking world; There are lots of other cultures here, and this meaning of Zionism is pretty unique to Kahanists and American media consumers (which is everyone, yes, but native English speakers especially).
I am pretty confident that this meaning is understood across W Europe and the UK too. I live and work in Zurich: the Swiss talk about Zionism in these terms; as do the French and Germans. If someone says 'Zionist' it seems they will be understood to mean Bibi politics.
But it seems a fair point: how about Khalanist-Zionism? Seems to differentiate - while being comprehensible?
Edited for accuracy: Kahanist, not Khalanist (thanks @laxla )
@JimmyB @MatWright @chris *Kahanist, not Khalanist. I'm pretty sure there's no movement aiming to genocide all forms of bread but Khalas from the face of the earth.
But yes, that'd work.
@chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca@JimmyB @laxla @MatWright thank you both for the enlightenment and reasonable discussion in providing it.