techbros: CSS isn't a real programming language, anyone can do it
same techbros: Arrgghh, I hate working with CSS, I can never get it to do what I want
@jump_spider @david I think we need to divorce the concept of “not a programming language” and “is easy to do”. Programming is usually not the hardest task in development (personally i think it’s coordinating with other people, and CSS is certainly up there, when applicable). My housemate is learning JS and HTML/CSS right now and is seemingly most intimidated by the CSS part (and keeps asking me, “can’t I just do this in JS instead?”).
@jump_spider @coda I was at a conference this week with the first keynote by Kyle Simpson, who wrote a ton of books about JS. He mentioned the whole way that the rebound away from JS can be as toxic and counterproductive for users as "JS All the Things!"
Then two days of speakers showing things that they built HTML/CSS only, no JS.
@jump_spider @david I've always liked CSS, and declarative languages in general — hi, SQL! But I definitely gained a better appreciation for it after stumbling on to Lara Schenck's CSS Algorithms talk. I was just like, "Yes, all of *gestures wildly* this!! This is why it's so cool!!"
It's also just a fun talk in general. :)
@jump_spider This being largely why XHTML went basically nowhere.
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