MOVED TO FediPact@cyberpunk.lol @FediPacti think the most annoying thing about this whole discourse is that people refuse to judge threads by the standard of any other fedi instance
like if a mastodon instance got set up and federated right now and it allowed the shit threads allowed it'd be widely defederated IMMEDIATELY
there are accounts literally CALLING FOR THE DEATH OF QUEER PEOPLE on there right fucking now
the only reason people are even willing to give them a chance is because it's a big corpo, but that should only be reason to give them less of one lmao. especially considering meta's history in particular
don't let them lower the bar for moderation standards here
MOVED TO FediPact@cyberpunk.lol @FediPact@tech.lgbtlike... why should we want anything to do with an instance that willingly allows GaysAgainstGroomers and LibsOfTikTok to exist on their platform? these are the kinds of hate speech accounts that get queer people killed every single goddamn day
that's basically like federating with fucking gab but with a few extra steps
MOVED TO FediPact@cyberpunk.lol @FediPactnobody i've seen trying to criticize fedipact in depth seems to actually like understand the point of it lmao
they think it's all about data scraping or opposition to meta on principle or just being gatekeepy or something
some of what they bring up are valid concerns, but far from my main one. my biggest concern here is entirely practical: allowing threads onto fedi will bring about a torrent of hate
the reason i started it was always "protecting queer people and other marginalized groups on here from harassment"
further reading: https://fedipact.online/why
MOVED TO FediPact@cyberpunk.lol @FediPactbut, to be clear
signing the fedipact doesn't mean you necessarily subscribe to my specific reasoning for creating it, or see that one as the most important part of all this, or whatever
there are many more valid concerns i didn't even touch upon in that "why" article
it just means you agree with the text of the pact itself, that states threads is a threat to the fediverse and needs to be defended against, for whatever reasons you may have
@FediPact i hate those corporations because they earned my hatred with their inhumane actions. At best, l I distrust the judgement of anyone embracing those corporations. At worst, i assume they are intentionality complicit.
I need no other motive. But yours seems pretty aligned to mine. Or mine to yours.
Humans Together is better than anything a corporation would ever do.
@Zekovski@pouet.chapril.org@FediPact
Another overlooked thing is Meta pushing anticompetitive changes to the way federation works, in order to make mastodon look like a buggy mess.
Kinda like what Chrome is doing with Firefox.
@FediPact Also Facebook literally aided in a genocide. People really seem to gloss over or are unaware of this fact
@engravecavedave I mean, a lot of folks in my (mostly Jewish) community who are continuing to be active on Meta apps, ignoring or downplaying the role Meta has played in genocide, are also continuing to unquestioningly support Israel despite the fact that it's clearly committing genocide in Gaza.
Confirmation bias is a bitch.
Apparently, "Never again," means, "Unless it's inconvenient or forces me to challenge my assumptions."
*sigh*
@thomholwerda@exquisite.social@FediPact People seem so obsessed with "number go up" they completely overlook the inherent dangers of Facebook we are all more than aware of. First and foremost, their role in genocide, closely followed by, in 20-the-year-of-our-lord-23 allowing nazis like Libs of TikTok and others to freely exist on their instance. And we haven't even gone into election interference in various countries, and so many other things.
Any other instance that does even 1% of what Facebook does would be defederated in a heartbeat. The push to force Threads down our throats and casting us as the crazy ones feels like I'm in the fucking Twilight Zone.
@FediPact For me, point 2 is the primary reason. I have replied to other toots elsewhere on why Meta should not be trusted. Looks like I'm going to have to start looking into the moving process sooner than later. >The Biggest Sigh<
Not mine, but I remembered this piece from earlier this year:(Link)"Mark F***king Zuckerberg Is Not Your Friend" https://catvalente.substack.com/p/mark-fking-zuckerberg-is-not-your
Edit: Added title to link for context
#Meta #Threads
@hexxy_the_grouch @FediPact from the above article. Is that Joe Rogan on the right? You can't do much w/ Zuck's knees. Dead giveaway he's a creatine builder.
@gnomeoffender @FediPact No idea if that is Rogan or not. TBH, that picture needs a spoiler. The author was wise to put an adorable kitten as the first figure in the article.
I'd also point out that even though that article is 6 months old and doesn't really talk about threads federating, it still does support the argument against trusting Meta with ... anything.
@FediPact
we should do the same thing to threads we did with gab: hardcoded instance blocklists